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Scotland votes to stay part of U.K

Shaazzyam

undefeated online evo champion
Where do you find this shit? Tinfoilhats.com? You never cease to amaze me foxy.

Lol at any article with baseless information stating the US nuclear capibilites are anything but amazing let alone "run on floppy disks"

Seriously LMFAO
It's true that the computers still run on floppy disks. All the tech is really pretty old, but changing that missile system to a newer operating system, full of bugs, is prob much more dangerous. Oh, and it costs a shitload of money too.
 

Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.
It's true that the computers still run on floppy disks. All the tech is really pretty old, but changing that missile system to a newer operating system, full of bugs, is prob much more dangerous.
LOL. When did the US nuclear secrets, operating systems, and capibilites become common knowlege? Last time I checked they were are most closely guarded secrets and we were the leading authority on nuclear technology.

Seriously, you guys are funny. Floppy disks BWAHAHAHAHA.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say you have no factual basis for your statement and have never actually been inside a nuclear facility, let alone a nuclear launch facility.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
LOL. When did the US nuclear secrets, operating systems, and capibilites become common knowlege? Last time I checked they were are most closely guarded secrets and we were the leading authority on nuclear technology.

Seriously, you guys are funny. Floppy disks BWAHAHAHAHA.
How do you know that you're not behind Russia, there's propaganda on both sides. USA seems to be full of it though, you guys don't really look outside the states much.
Anyway we're off topic.
 

Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.
How do you know that you're not behind Russia, there's propaganda on both sides. USA seems to be full of it though, you guys don't really look outside the states much.
Anyway we're off topic.
So wait. We are a world bully with are nose in everyone's affairs but we dont look outside the States? LOLOLOL. Keep it coming guys. You are killing me.

Yes, way off topic. This thread was ment to highfive my English counterparts on their amazing display of peace and democracy. Very well done. If only we could all jusy put the weapons down and pick the phones up.
 

Shaazzyam

undefeated online evo champion
LOL. When did the US nuclear secrets, operating systems, and capibilites become common knowlege? Last time I checked they were are most closely guarded secrets and we were the leading authority on nuclear technology.

Seriously, you guys are funny. Floppy disks BWAHAHAHAHA.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say you have no factual basis for your statement and have never actually been inside a nuclear facility, let alone a nuclear launch facility.
Brah, you're like totally right. Area 51, classified information and all that breh!11!

Jesus Christ, dude.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/floppy-disks-and-nuclear-missiles/
 

Element_

The First Element
So wait. We are a world bully with are nose in everyone's affairs but we dont look outside the States? LOLOLOL. Keep it coming guys. You are killing me.

Yes, way off topic. This thread was ment to highfive my English counterparts on their amazing display of peace and democracy. Very well done. If only we could all jusy put the weapons down and pick the phones up.
Ok..high five from the "United Kingdom" Lol But seriously ..if you thought Scotland could do it on there own then you must be living under a rock somewhere!
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
So wait. We are a world bully with are nose in everyone's affairs but we dont look outside the States? LOLOLOL. Keep it coming guys. You are killing me.

Yes, way off topic. This thread was ment to highfive my English counterparts on their amazing display of peace and democracy. Very well done. If only we could all jusy put the weapons down and pick the phones up.
Well, you rarely hear anything from the Russian POV do you? Just because you got your nose in everybodies affairs, doesn't mean that the stories you get told on the news are 100% accurate, or that you're being told all the right things.

The UK are probably the lot you'd expect to be most civilized in this sort of situation, considering our age and stability.

Ok..high five from the "United Kingdom" Lol But seriously ..if you thought Scotland could do it on there own then you must be living under a rock somewhere!
North Korea make it on their own, perhaps Scotland could do too lol.

@A F0xy Grampa this is the easiest way for me to explain why Russia, or anyone, would not use nuclear weapons.

I understand MAD, but that's a theory, not every theory plays out in practice.
 
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Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.

Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.
Ok..high five from the "United Kingdom" Lol But seriously ..if you thought Scotland could do it on there own then you must be living under a rock somewhere!
Like I said in the OP I was happy about the democratic process, not the outcome of the vote.
 

Shaazzyam

undefeated online evo champion
Soooo did you actually watch that video? It has nothing to do with our operating system. It is about a command sequence used to issue and order... it is basiclly saying ONE of the many ways the President can issue a strike. Jesus.
So, in other words... the actual operating system? You realize that was a missile silo, right? And those ancient computers are currently used to run it, yeah? Like there's no other secret room behind a curtain with Star Trek-levels of tech somewhere?


I don't know why you're in such denial here, breh
 
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Element_

The First Element
Anyway was a good effort by the Scots...twas a really good effort indeed ! i think if they try again in the next century..they might actually get it! Now if you''l excuse me....i have some fish n chips to eat.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
As a Scot watching all of the coverage live last night and being on Facebook and Twitter, I definitely have something to say. First and foremost, I cannot understate my disappointment in the result. Granted it was kind of close, 55% No to 45% Yes, but some majorly shocking announcements were made and it saddens me to no end. I can understand why the English may not see it that way and "we're better together" and whatnot but that's your opinion. The Scots were the ones with the decision in the end. I have a few things I want to talk about:

My area, East Ayrshire, voted no. I'd like to hear from @VideoGamerHD on this too because we're both from there and we were more supportive of the Yes campaign. In fact, most of my timeline on both Facebook and Twitter from the area were Yes supporters. This is one of the reasons we find it kind of fishy that East Ayrshire voted no.

Dundee and Glasgow both voted yes. Dundee had their fire alarm go off twice, there was a controversy about Yes votes being in the No pile there, their turnout suddenly dropped from 90% to 78% and they did still end up voting Yes by a wide margin, but it wasn't enough. Again a lot of people thought something weird was going on.

Glasgow also voted Yes, but not by much, and only 75% of the people there turned up to vote. This was surprising considering Glasgow is huge, and it was also supposed to be a Yes city. There were also reports of electoral fraud- people coming in wearing blue gloves and attempting to vote twice.

Now I'm not saying there was something going on in these areas, my timeline was just in awe of what was happening and it all seemed to be happening to the Yes votes. But we can't change the result now and we have to deal with it. Fine. Both sides were respectful enough about it, as people have said, and I hope that everyone will continue to be friendly now that the decision has been made. I personally will hold no grudges against people and I hope noone will hold grudges against me. I may not have voted (I have my reasons) but I know where I stand, and to the others that stand on the opposite side I congratulate you on a successful campaign and whatnot despite the disagreement.

Catalonia also have been thinking about independence, and along with the rest of the world I know they were watching excitedly. On my first night at university I spoke to a few Catalonian girls and they seemed passionate about independence, telling me they were hoping for it from us as it could give them the push to go for it too. I feel like our country has let them down, and the rest of the world that backed us up, but now I wish them along with any other place thinking about independence the best.
@Youphemism how do you feel about them Scots staying a part of you English people?
You know what? I didn't vote but I'm disgusted that people can't even allow themselves to accept change. 55% of Scotland fell, the world will now laugh at us and continue to generalize us as British and rightly so. The No voters clearly don't understand that Scotland had a chance to do something different and take control of its money, resources and country. We would've been one of the richest countries in the world but noooooooo, people for some reason believed that better change would come for Scotland if they stayed with the UK. That's just being naive. If there are changes coming for Scotland, why haven't they been introduced already? Why did they have to wait until a referendum to introduce these "changes" they promise? Their campaign had nothing to back it up and it contradicted itself but alas somehow people in Scotland believed in the party they didn't even vote for in the general election- the Tories. And on that point, the Scottish votes in every general election for the past 60ish years HASN'T AFFECTED THE RESULT. This was the ONE chance Scotland had to make a difference for itself and for its peoples votes to actually count and now we'll never be heard again.
Not as of yet. I caught it on the BBC's World News live. I'm sure it will be played throughout the day. It was very well thoughtout and delivered extreamly well.
That's how the BBC would like you to see it, but believe it or not throughout the entire thing they've been EXTREMELY biased. It's shocking and unfair frankly. Just search for it - "BBC Scottish independence bias" - I'm sure you'll find plenty of results. Not surprising since they're the British Broadcasting Corporation but an unbiased media coverage of the entire thing would've been appreciated.
I am glad we are still with the Scots. It makes the sense for both countries.
It makes sense?! How? It makes sense that the Scots should pay for English expenditures? It makes sense for Scotland to be involved with England's wars? It makes sense for the Scottish foodbanks to continue to be there? For children to continue living in poverty? For the unemployment rates to remain so high? For no changes to be made of worth? For Scotland to have to give their resources to the English?


Now as I say this don't take it as a sign of hatred for England or the rest of the UK, that's not true, I just feel that the Scottish have blown the one opportunity we had for real change and the opportunity to take matters into our own hands. I have family in England, the Scots and English are particularly amicable from my point of view, so any tension between the two countries is coming from others. I'm all for an amicable relationship between the two countries, along with Wales and Northern Ireland of course, but the No campaign have not promised anything of worth to the Scottish in my opinion. Every person that cheered as they watched Scotland slowly continue to be placed in the power of another country hurt the idea of truly being Scottish, and the ideas and beliefs of William Wallace. Though I truly hope for the best, I can't say it will happen. Those who disagree with my opinion have the right to.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
As a Scot watching all of the coverage live last night and being on Facebook and Twitter, I definitely have something to say. First and foremost, I cannot understate my disappointment in the result. Granted it was kind of close, 55% No to 45% Yes, but some majorly shocking announcements were made and it saddens me to no end. I can understand why the English may not see it that way and "we're better together" and whatnot but that's your opinion. The Scots were the ones with the decision in the end. I have a few things I want to talk about:

My area, East Ayrshire, voted no. I'd like to hear from @VideoGamerHD on this too because we're both from there and we were more supportive of the Yes campaign. In fact, most of my timeline on both Facebook and Twitter from the area were Yes supporters. This is one of the reasons we find it kind of fishy that East Ayrshire voted no.

Dundee and Glasgow both voted yes. Dundee had their fire alarm go off twice, there was a controversy about Yes votes being in the No pile there, their turnout suddenly dropped from 90% to 78% and they did still end up voting Yes by a wide margin, but it wasn't enough. Again a lot of people thought something weird was going on.

Glasgow also voted Yes, but not by much, and only 75% of the people there turned up to vote. This was surprising considering Glasgow is huge, and it was also supposed to be a Yes city. There were also reports of electoral fraud- people coming in wearing blue gloves and attempting to vote twice.

Now I'm not saying there was something going on in these areas, my timeline was just in awe of what was happening and it all seemed to be happening to the Yes votes. But we can't change the result now and we have to deal with it. Fine. Both sides were respectful enough about it, as people have said, and I hope that everyone will continue to be friendly now that the decision has been made. I personally will hold no grudges against people and I hope noone will hold grudges against me. I may not have voted (I have my reasons) but I know where I stand, and to the others that stand on the opposite side I congratulate you on a successful campaign and whatnot despite the disagreement.

Catalonia also have been thinking about independence, and along with the rest of the world I know they were watching excitedly. On my first night at university I spoke to a few Catalonian girls and they seemed passionate about independence, telling me they were hoping for it from us as it could give them the push to go for it too. I feel like our country has let them down, and the rest of the world that backed us up, but now I wish them along with any other place thinking about independence the best.

You know what? I didn't vote but I'm disgusted that people can't even allow themselves to accept change. 55% of Scotland fell, the world will now laugh at us and continue to generalize us as British and rightly so. The No voters clearly don't understand that Scotland had a chance to do something different and take control of its money, resources and country. We would've been one of the richest countries in the world but noooooooo, people for some reason believed that better change would come for Scotland if they stayed with the UK. That's just being naive. If there are changes coming for Scotland, why haven't they been introduced already? Why did they have to wait until a referendum to introduce these "changes" they promise? Their campaign had nothing to back it up and it contradicted itself but alas somehow people in Scotland believed in the party they didn't even vote for in the general election- the Tories. And on that point, the Scottish votes in every general election for the past 60ish years HASN'T AFFECTED THE RESULT. This was the ONE chance Scotland had to make a difference for itself and for its peoples votes to actually count and now we'll never be heard again.

That's how the BBC would like you to see it, but believe it or not throughout the entire thing they've been EXTREMELY biased. It's shocking and unfair frankly. Just search for it - "BBC Scottish independence bias" - I'm sure you'll find plenty of results. Not surprising since they're the British Broadcasting Corporation but an unbiased media coverage of the entire thing would've been appreciated.

It makes sense?! How? It makes sense that the Scots should pay for English expenditures? It makes sense for Scotland to be involved with England's wars? It makes sense for the Scottish foodbanks to continue to be there? For children to continue living in poverty? For the unemployment rates to remain so high? For no changes to be made of worth? For Scotland to have to give their resources to the English?


Now as I say this don't take it as a sign of hatred for England or the rest of the UK, that's not true, I just feel that the Scottish have blown the one opportunity we had for real change and the opportunity to take matters into our own hands. I have family in England, the Scots and English are particularly amicable from my point of view, so any tension between the two countries is coming from others. I'm all for an amicable relationship between the two countries, along with Wales and Northern Ireland of course, but the No campaign have not promised anything of worth to the Scottish in my opinion. Every person that cheered as they watched Scotland slowly continue to be placed in the power of another country hurt the idea of truly being Scottish, and the ideas and beliefs of William Wallace. Though I truly hope for the best, I can't say it will happen. Those who disagree with my opinion have the right to.

You say that Scotland pay for english wars and what not, but its not like we dont pay for pretty much everything you guys have either. Hence, we're in it together.

Also, I'm pretty sure we spent alot more on you guys, than you do on us.
 
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Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
You say that Scotland pay for english wars and what not, but its not like we dont pay for pretty much everything you guys have either. Hence, we're in it together.
No I said Scotland will continue to be involved in English wars, we'll fund things like the underground railroad that's being built in London right now. How do you pay for us? The Scottish money is controlled in England, as is the English money, so no you're not really paying for us. If that was your argument anyway then it's an argument for Yes because surely you don't want to pay for another country?
 

SneakyTortoise

Official Master of Salt
As a Scot watching all of the coverage live last night and being on Facebook and Twitter, I definitely have something to say. First and foremost, I cannot understate my disappointment in the result. Granted it was kind of close, 55% No to 45% Yes, but some majorly shocking announcements were made and it saddens me to no end. I can understand why the English may not see it that way and "we're better together" and whatnot but that's your opinion. The Scots were the ones with the decision in the end. I have a few things I want to talk about:

My area, East Ayrshire, voted no. I'd like to hear from @VideoGamerHD on this too because we're both from there and we were more supportive of the Yes campaign. In fact, most of my timeline on both Facebook and Twitter from the area were Yes supporters. This is one of the reasons we find it kind of fishy that East Ayrshire voted no.

Dundee and Glasgow both voted yes. Dundee had their fire alarm go off twice, there was a controversy about Yes votes being in the No pile there, their turnout suddenly dropped from 90% to 78% and they did still end up voting Yes by a wide margin, but it wasn't enough. Again a lot of people thought something weird was going on.

Glasgow also voted Yes, but not by much, and only 75% of the people there turned up to vote. This was surprising considering Glasgow is huge, and it was also supposed to be a Yes city. There were also reports of electoral fraud- people coming in wearing blue gloves and attempting to vote twice.

Now I'm not saying there was something going on in these areas, my timeline was just in awe of what was happening and it all seemed to be happening to the Yes votes. But we can't change the result now and we have to deal with it. Fine. Both sides were respectful enough about it, as people have said, and I hope that everyone will continue to be friendly now that the decision has been made. I personally will hold no grudges against people and I hope noone will hold grudges against me. I may not have voted (I have my reasons) but I know where I stand, and to the others that stand on the opposite side I congratulate you on a successful campaign and whatnot despite the disagreement.

Catalonia also have been thinking about independence, and along with the rest of the world I know they were watching excitedly. On my first night at university I spoke to a few Catalonian girls and they seemed passionate about independence, telling me they were hoping for it from us as it could give them the push to go for it too. I feel like our country has let them down, and the rest of the world that backed us up, but now I wish them along with any other place thinking about independence the best.

You know what? I didn't vote but I'm disgusted that people can't even allow themselves to accept change. 55% of Scotland fell, the world will now laugh at us and continue to generalize us as British and rightly so. The No voters clearly don't understand that Scotland had a chance to do something different and take control of its money, resources and country. We would've been one of the richest countries in the world but noooooooo, people for some reason believed that better change would come for Scotland if they stayed with the UK. That's just being naive. If there are changes coming for Scotland, why haven't they been introduced already? Why did they have to wait until a referendum to introduce these "changes" they promise? Their campaign had nothing to back it up and it contradicted itself but alas somehow people in Scotland believed in the party they didn't even vote for in the general election- the Tories. And on that point, the Scottish votes in every general election for the past 60ish years HASN'T AFFECTED THE RESULT. This was the ONE chance Scotland had to make a difference for itself and for its peoples votes to actually count and now we'll never be heard again.

That's how the BBC would like you to see it, but believe it or not throughout the entire thing they've been EXTREMELY biased. It's shocking and unfair frankly. Just search for it - "BBC Scottish independence bias" - I'm sure you'll find plenty of results. Not surprising since they're the British Broadcasting Corporation but an unbiased media coverage of the entire thing would've been appreciated.

It makes sense?! How? It makes sense that the Scots should pay for English expenditures? It makes sense for Scotland to be involved with England's wars? It makes sense for the Scottish foodbanks to continue to be there? For children to continue living in poverty? For the unemployment rates to remain so high? For no changes to be made of worth? For Scotland to have to give their resources to the English?


Now as I say this don't take it as a sign of hatred for England or the rest of the UK, that's not true, I just feel that the Scottish have blown the one opportunity we had for real change and the opportunity to take matters into our own hands. I have family in England, the Scots and English are particularly amicable from my point of view, so any tension between the two countries is coming from others. I'm all for an amicable relationship between the two countries, along with Wales and Northern Ireland of course, but the No campaign have not promised anything of worth to the Scottish in my opinion. Every person that cheered as they watched Scotland slowly continue to be placed in the power of another country hurt the idea of truly being Scottish, and the ideas and beliefs of William Wallace. Though I truly hope for the best, I can't say it will happen. Those who disagree with my opinion have the right to.
When I asked you if you were voting you said "no, I don't care much about politics".

You've changed your tune...
 

HellblazerHawkman

Confused Thanagarian
Side note about that side note, the Finnish have specialized tanks to operate in the snow and run security drills on the border all the time in case Russia tries anything again. People don't give them credit, they invented the Molotov Cocktail (the name at least, I'm sure many people figured the concept out centuries ago)
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
When I asked you if you were voting you said "no, I don't care much about politics".

You've changed your tune...
Haha yeah, but this is a big thing for Scotland. I may not have voted (and one of the reasons I didn't vote turned out to be a completely valid reason) but I still have some sort of an opinion on the matter :) I'm also very open which sometimes isn't the best thing...but hey ho lol
 

TKB

Noob
Where do you find this shit? Tinfoilhats.com? You never cease to amaze me foxy.

Lol at any article with baseless information stating the US nuclear capibilites are anything but amazing let alone "run on floppy disks"

Seriously LMFAO
I was thinking the exact same thing.

Our military budget is downright absurd and has amassed us an arsenal that is, quite frankly, frightening for every other country on the planet.

Also, the comments at the bottom of that page... WOW lol