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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
You are forgetting the steel weakness though, you don't need poison, in fact it won't even effect mawile. Excadrill is the biggest fairy killer in the game right now, and for good reason, it's Iron head fucking hurts. Especially if it happens to be running a SD set. Steel is the way to deal with fairies not poison unless yer running venusaur or landorus with sludge wave.
Not to mention, most of the used Fairies have secondary weaknesses you can take advantage of, anyway. You don't even have to deal with the Fairy type itself. The only pure Fairies are Clefable and Sylveon. Both still don't like physical attacks that much, especially not from Excadrill or Scizor.

Fairies do what they were brought in to do. Keep Dragons from blowing up all of OU with high BP attacks coming off of high attacking stats and being only resisted by one type. Their typing is fucked up when you exclude the actual Mons making up the meta and the type itself. It's like GL's b1. Thinking about what the move on its own does gets you nowhere because everything else around the move is also affecting it. It's only one attribute.
 

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
One thing I want to point out, Diancie is fucking terrible lol. This thing doesn't know what it wants to do in life.
4x weak to Steel, 2x weak to Water/Grass/Fighting/Ground, losing Fighting resistance...if this thing is a tank, it sure as hell gets mopped up by common attacking types.

Btw, my Skype is thehuggabletaybear. I'll be adding everyone to Skype.

Last edit: Gengar and Venusaur are good Poison users...Gengar especially. Just Poison sucks offensively. It only bops Grass and Fairy. They just need to make it SE vs Water and finally add Acid Rain as a weather...then the type will finally rise up.

Also...WE NEED TO GET INTO TIER SHIFT! That shit looks amazing. And once Rotation comes out, I'll be wanting in on that.
 
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Derptile

RIP Ex Smash
Give ice a defensive buff pls, so poverty that it only resists itself.

Also Skype name is Derptile, never use it doe.
 
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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
ice has always sucked defensively if i'm not mistaken
Yeah but now, offensively, it's pretty pointless as well. Fairy covers the main draw of Ice (Dragon-slaying), on top of also beating Fighting and Dark types.

Though...at least Ice has auto-weather lol.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
4x Weakness one shots it.
i mean... same can be said for alot of OU poke

There aren't alot of Psychic types running around to STAB x4 it, or willing to come in knowing i'm going to sucker punch the ever loving shit out of it.

I'm thinking maybe it is the fact that just a normal 2x things tend to OHKO it pretty easily and it isn't fast enough to really outpace both lando versions which just rape it.
Yeah that is probably it.
 

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Why is Toxicroak not in OU?

I don't understand
Toxicroak was OU last gen because of weather being so fucked up. Its ability, Dry Skin, was pretty sweet in the rain. But outside of its ability, it's too slow of a Mon to work that well offensively, and it isn't bulky enough to last to get something out. Sucker Punch is actually a shitty priority option, for the simple fact that it's a priority option that fails if the opponent isn't attacking. Which means if he uses it, he runs the risk of letting hazards through or eating a status ailment.

Now that auto-weather is nerfed to shreds, it's lost its place. The same thing happened to every other Mon who only functioned well in weather (except Hail, because Hail is garbage anyway).
 
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NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Toxicroak was OU last gen because of weather being so fucked up. Its ability, Dry Skin, was pretty sweet in the rain. But outside of its ability, it's too slow of a Mon to work that well offensively, and it isn't bulky enough to last to get something out. Sucker Punch is actually a shitty priority option, for the simple fact that it's a priority option that fails if the opponent isn't attacking. Which means if he uses it, he runs the risk of letting hazards through or eating a status ailment.

Now that auto-weather is nerfed to shreds, it's lost its place. The same thing happened to every other Mon who only functioned well in weather (except Hail, because Hail is garbage anyway).
yeah but just look at OU... and then look at what all Toxicroak can WRECK just because of water immunity, a boosting move, and good coverage of pretty much everything outside of a few good mons.

Not complaining. I love the fact that he can force out pokemon like vaporeon azumarril and most psychics.

but i def. see what you mean nad probably agree. Lando just wrecks him hard. And he can't really switch in on anything he can't force out. I've been using screens to get him in on a kinda gimmicky team. Once I do get him out there tho..... 2x Drain/Gunk/Sucker is a pretty good combo to crush most pokemon, especially behind dual screens.

Yeah... I get it.
 

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
yeah but just look at OU... and then look at what all Toxicroak can WRECK just because of water immunity, a boosting move, and good coverage of pretty much everything outside of a few good mons.

Not complaining. I love the fact that he can force out pokemon like vaporeon azumarril and most psychics.

but i def. see what you mean nad probably agree. Lando just wrecks him hard. And he can't really switch in on anything he can't force out. I've been using screens to get him in on a kinda gimmicky team. Once I do get him out there tho..... 2x Drain/Gunk/Sucker is a pretty good combo to crush most pokemon, especially behind dual screens.

Yeah... I get it.
Yeah, once he's in and able to get things rolling, he's fine. It's just getting him in at the right time is the issue.
 

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
OMG I WISH I SAVED MY LAST REPLAY!

Opponent had me cornered as fuck...I just came off of missing a Stone Edge and allowing a free SR up, trying to predict a switch. But they send in Gengar vs my M-Tar. I get 2 DDs up, and avoid 2 Focus Blasts.

"Opponent has forfeited."

This game is risky as fuck yo.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
OMG I WISH I SAVED MY LAST REPLAY!

Opponent had me cornered as fuck...I just came off of missing a Stone Edge and allowing a free SR up, trying to predict a switch. But they send in Gengar vs my M-Tar. I get 2 DDs up, and avoid 2 Focus Blasts.

"Opponent has forfeited."

This game is risky as fuck yo.
Hax