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General/Other - Cryomancer Sub-Zero - A Closer Look

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
This will be the first time breaking down a weapon based character, so there is some things that might be unclear, so go easy on me :p
Variation Ability: Creates Ice Weapons from Thin Air.

  • Cryomancer has exclusive strings that are totally weapon based
  • One of his combo strings is a grappling move in the Unbreakable and Grandmaster, is different from cryomancer
  • Ice Hammer is a exclusive Special move of this variation.
  • Possibly the Sub-Zero with the most combo potencial, has 4 launchers moves (NJP, 2 Strings, 1 ex Special move)
Visual Difference: His both arms becomes frozen




Universal Special Moves: Freeze, Slide.
::: Universal Special Moves :::​

Freeze: Sub throws a ball of ice that freezes opponent (this time with only one hand)

The EX Version is much faster and he uses both hands to throw a much solid Ice Ball



Lin Kuei Slide
The Slide is really different from MK9, this sub travels much faster than kuai liang (doge) , possibly will go under projectiles as well, just check how low subby is, nice.

Ex Version (power Slide) is my favourite move of the game so far, NRS added a nice Ninja Handseal(ninpo) animation to fire some extra ice blocks to the opponent. SWAG


Variation Exclusive

Ice Hammer
This Special move only comes out on this variation, Subby creates an ice hammer and smashes the opponent skull with it, builds meter when used.



EX version (Rigid Hammer) is a Bound attack, so it grants juggles followups (yay)



Exclusive Strings
Besides his universal 3 hit strings that launches, he also has this one which is also a launcher string



One more exclusive string, that ends with this sword slice, i would like this last hit to be changed to hard knockdown.


This string in particular instead of a throw, sub resets the opponent standing only in Cryomancer


Cryomancer's grappling


His Uppercut becomes Sword based (more range?)


X-Ray: Frost Bite
Subs X-Ray seems to be an Attack, but his initial frames are part of Parry, if Subby holds his X-Ray he will freeze whoever gets near him.

Parry stage

Attack stage (does the travel distance is this short? or is trackable?)


Personal Opinion: I liked this Sub-Zero more, i know you guys love the clone one, but this one is special, feels like a rushdown sub to me.


Way to go NRS, lets hope Tom mains this variation too.:DOGE

@Qwark28 @Tom Brady @NRF CharlieMurphy @ETC Mcfly @TONY-T @RedRaptor10 @MK Trickylizard @Braindead
 
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Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
Tom exclusively stated that he prefers the Grandmaster variation because of the clones.
He explained in great details why he loves the Ice Clones.

Personally I am liking the Unbreakable variation because of the Parry move which helps making me safer with my semi-yolo playing style.

But who are we kidding? We are going to play the hell out of all the 3 variations.

Also good shit, Eddy. I like the break down. I didn't notice the grappling move that changes in this variation before.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
He clearly is more push buttons.

He DEF gets a huge increase in his overall range with the weapons.
I'm not sure how he'll play out, but i mean...... frozen arms!!!!
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I hope the variations are Father - Kuai - Bi

Anyway, it seems Subzero will function this way, since NRS knows you can't give a char tools that are held back so he won't be OP as a turtle but enough so he can still chase in the inevitable matchups he can't keep away in.

Grandmaster - For chars he can keep away
Unbreakable - For chars with good zoning tools but bad up-close game, receives no chip ( and less damage? )
Cryomancer - For chars with mediocre zoning in the sense of a fireball war but good zoning with normals at their optimal ranges

He looks like an extremely complete character from what little we know.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I hope the variations are Father - Kuai - Bi

Anyway, it seems Subzero will function this way, since NRS knows you can't give a char tools that are held back so he won't be OP as a turtle but enough so he can still chase in the inevitable matchups he can't keep away in.

Grandmaster - For chars he can keep away
Unbreakable - For chars with good zoning tools but bad up-close game, receives no chip ( and less damage? )
Cryomancer - For chars with mediocre zoning in the sense of a fireball war but good zoning with normals at their optimal ranges

He looks like an extremely complete character from what little we know.
I really hope Unbreakable gets a Freeze on Contact special move and grandmaster gets the ice puddle, i'm i the only one to think his universal moves are the shortest?
 

Rickyraws

This mean you don't like me?
You know I'm starting to think most characters will have a weapon based variation. Scorpion, Subzero, Kotal. They all seem to have sword/hammer variations that perhaps act as their main damage dealer archetypes. Alternatively, I'm expecting there to be projectile based variations for other characters as well. Thinking along these lines, we may be able to see how much or how little variations actually 'vary' and shake up gameplay, or most importantly, MUs.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
You know I'm starting to think most characters will have a weapon based variation. Scorpion, Subzero, Kotal. They all seem to have sword/hammer variations that perhaps act as their main damage dealer archetypes. Alternatively, I'm expecting there to be projectile based variations for other characters as well. Thinking along these lines, we may be able to see how much or how little variations actually 'vary' and shake up gameplay, or most importantly, MUs.
Cassie has a projectile based variation (spec-Ops) but doesn't have a weapon based, her (hollywood) seems to be the rushdown type, while the (grappler) is the footsie based.
Scorpion has a zoning based (inferno) not sure if those demons are worth called projectiles but they still limit opponent's mobility.
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
You know I'm starting to think most characters will have a weapon based variation. Scorpion, Subzero, Kotal. They all seem to have sword/hammer variations that perhaps act as their main damage dealer archetypes. Alternatively, I'm expecting there to be projectile based variations for other characters as well. Thinking along these lines, we may be able to see how much or how little variations actually 'vary' and shake up gameplay, or most importantly, MUs.
i was worried about that, hopefully everyone doesnt have a "weapon stance" again that would be pretty lame imo
also these threads are awesome eddy ^_^
 

VenomX-90

"On your Knees!"
Throws his basic Ice ball to freeze opponent, and then he can throw his own clone too. Getting real tired of your shit Sub Zero, lol jk.
 

NB Semi Evil Ryu

Former Sub-Zero of the Midwest (2011 - 2015)
I feel like Cryomancer might be the one that I get the most enjoyment from. Between how I played Sub-Zero in MK 9, and the fact that I play Batman in Injustice......yeah, I see myself having a good time with Cryo.

Though I will still always pick the best variation based on the match up.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
No tag? ... so left out. :(

Probably my favorite looking variation with the frozen arms... but I'll be using all three if I can.

Really excited about the new slide as well... considering I loved to yolo slide in MK9. haha
 

NB Semi Evil Ryu

Former Sub-Zero of the Midwest (2011 - 2015)
Probably my favorite looking variation with the frozen arms... but I'll be using all three if I can.
With so many variations for each character, I feel like we will need to learn at least two of the three variations for Subby Z.

We shall see. Man, this game cannot come out soon enough.
 

WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
With so many variations for each character, I feel like we will need to learn at least two of the three variations for Subby Z.

We shall see. Man, this game cannot come out soon enough.
He has a rush down and a turtle variation which I will be maining both but which style is the other variation?

Also it seems like in this game I will be playing lots of chars but for fun since I dont really have to counter pick chars anymore just variations lol
 

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
No tag? ... so left out. :(

Probably my favorite looking variation with the frozen arms... but I'll be using all three if I can.

Really excited about the new slide as well... considering I loved to yolo slide in MK9. haha
YOLO slides and YOLO Raiden Supermen are my whole existence.