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Worst character of these 4

worst character

  • Kano

    Votes: 29 20.6%

  • Stryker

    Votes: 51 36.2%

  • Nightwolf

    Votes: 12 8.5%

  • Sheeva

    Votes: 54 38.3%

  • Click this if you think nightwolf is worst then sheeva also

    Votes: 10 7.1%
  • Total voters
    141
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Vandy said:
Alrite guys, I've been thinking about it. I want to do special events but don't have any planned yet (for KiT 15 - the tournament I run)

Probably don't have enough time to run an entire separate Low Tier tournament, but I want to do an invitational.

Eight players - each assigned to a different character. 3/5 Single Elimination. Bracket created randomly. All streamed.

A player selected for each of the following characters:
Jade
Sindel
Stryker
Cyber Sub Zero
Kano
Nightwolf
Sheeva
Baraka

Players who already main one of those characters preferred. In the absence of Low Tier mainers I would need someone (top level player) to step up and learn the character.

I would only really do it if I got commitment from the eight players to be in game shape for the tournament. It's a Shit Tier tournament but I won't put Shit Tier gameplay on stream.
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baraka will wreck that shit, fucking safe blade charges all he has to worry about is nightwolf which he outfootsies
 
Pho Cubic

Pho Cubic

Sérieusement Sabrewulf peut aller en enfer.
Why do people think Kano is better than Stryker? You can't even do any blockstrings with Kano. His strings have more holes than the buildings in Gaza.
 
STRYKIE

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Pho Cubic said:
Why do people think Kano is better than Stryker? You can't even do any blockstrings with Kano. Kano's strings have more holes than the buildings in Gaza.
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Umm... you have read the frame data on Stryker's normals right?
 
Hidan

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
fun thread, but... I can beat anything except kabal with the indian. He is at least mid tier and surely better than QC
 
Ray'sGoodLiquor

Ray'sGoodLiquor

I don't care I'm not a competitive player anymore
Groove Heaven said:
That's true, he could still do 59% if he got a jip combo, but now he can do a little more than that and get a jab/command grab mixup or just get ~80% every time he touches you. His reset affects the meta against him. It's almost never wise to have less than 2 bars of meter, the MU gets really tricky for meter-dependent characters. A few of the MUs feel kinda even in the neutral but he wins because he out-damages them.

d4 and Anti-Air throw are broken for sure, but the other tools you mentioned really don't work as well against players who know how to play the MU. I went to VSM once and let me tell you they were not having my command grab shenannies. Even my main sparring partner who I still play this game with pretty much always techs it at this point.

I think he's a very solid character, I guess top 10 isn't crazy but I think the reset is a huge part of the character he is. Even still he loses some MUs, especially the 3-7 against Kabal.
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He doesn't need resets. His damage is obnoxious.

 
Hidan

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
Peckapowa said:
i'll take a rune trap, over a turtle who can't deal with zoning.
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What turtle?
1.He is an indian who can come at you with any whiff chance
2.can pressure with 11-frame unparrable mid
3.maybe best recovery on jab, for aa and wake up bait
4.two armored moves (high, but at least sometimes useful)
5.good down poke game (meaning with axe swing as a cancel threat)
6. 1221 string: high-highmid-overhead-overhead.
Last hit 0 on block with pushback.
3 hits for hit confirming on axe swing.
2nd hit coming pretty fast and advances, you can almost safely whiff these first two hits.
7.the only one who really zones Nw is kenshi.
8.corner favors his moves' hitbox

The only problem I found is his hurtbox against Kabal and KL telekicks. He is unexplored, I have found some stuff, but there might be more. PPL can't really talk about chars like kano, nw and stryker. There are the bunch that could cost you the set and ultimately the tour if you are ignorant.

NW for MKX (and anything else with tribal stuff, violence fits them best)
 
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Death

Noob
No way Stryker is the worst. Nightwing is bad too but I can think of some characters worst than him that arent even being mentioned in the poll. I think Sheeva is the worst definitely.
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Hidan said:
What turtle?
1.He is an indian who can come at you with any whiff chance
2.can pressure with 11-frame unparrable mid
3.maybe best recovery on jab, for aa and wake up bait
4.two armored moves (high, but at least sometimes useful)
5.good down poke game (meaning with axe swing as a cancel threat)
6. 1221 string: high-highmid-overhead-overhead.
Last hit 0 on block with pushback.
3 hits for hit confirming on axe swing.
2nd hit coming pretty fast and advances, you can almost safely whiff these first two hits.
7.the only one who really zones Nw is kenshi.
8.corner favors his moves' hitbox

The only problem I found is his hurtbox against Kabal and KL telekicks. He is unexplored, I have found some stuff, but there might be more. PPL can't really talk about chars like kano, nw and stryker. There are the bunch that could cost you the set and ultimately the tour if you are ignorant.

NW for MKX (and anything else with tribal stuff, violence fits them best)
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1. he's built with a reflect and lightning so he can counter-zone and force you to come to him... but its irrelevant because if you have a lifelead you can just crouch and laugh at... hell characters like liu kang have methods of countering the reflect, along with reptile, sindel
2.its a decent normal, the pressure is hardly anything to worry about... he can tick throw every once in a while
3.yes he can anti-air. baiting wakeups????? ummm
4. once agian... loses to crouch
5. his poke game isn't bad... he's no shang tsung or smoke
6.who cares about overheads
7. false, noob saibot is one of his worst matchups, sindel alsozones him, and many other characters definetly outzone him and force him to rush down he is meant to be counter-zoner/turtle by design... for example Kabal, freddy krueger, sektor, ermac, cyrax, jax, shang tsung...
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Death said:
No way Stryker is the worst. Nightwing is bad too but I can think of some characters worst than him that arent even being mentioned in the poll. I think Sheeva is the worst definitely.
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Who is worst than nightwolf???? baraka??? no way in fucking hell... cyber sub???. ehhhh..... jade???? you might be able to sell me on that one.

stryker is pretty awful, sheeva too.
 
Hidan

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
Peckapowa said:
1. he's built with a reflect and lightning so he can counter-zone and force you to come to him... but its irrelevant because if you have a lifelead you can just crouch and laugh at... hell characters like liu kang have methods of countering the reflect, along with reptile, sindel
2.its a decent normal, the pressure is hardly anything to worry about... he can tick throw every once in a while
3.yes he can anti-air. baiting wakeups????? ummm
4. once agian... loses to crouch
5. his poke game isn't bad... he's no shang tsung or smoke
6.who cares about overheads
7. false, noob saibot is one of his worst matchups, sindel alsozones him, and many other characters definetly outzone him and force him to rush down he is meant to be counter-zoner/turtle by design... for example Kabal, freddy krueger, sektor, ermac, cyrax, jax, shang tsung...
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1. YOU play turtling, YOU think he is designed for these things. His game is up close
2. I have to repeat myself. 11-frame mid (rare), leads to midscreen combo with axe swing being -6 if blocked, leads to corner combo doing the full string being 0 if blocked
3. "yes he can anti-air"? that's it? Do sheeva, kano, stryker even jade lead to 22-24% combo from a jab (the type of anti-air who can't be crossed by fake jumps) that will most likely push you to some corner upon ending? I don't know what chars you have played, you don't appreciate stuff
4. I mentioned that, but you might thought I am a fool for bringing them up anyway, the fact that you can use ex-shoulder to close the distance anytime someone throws something at you?... nothing big, every kabal does it. The other one needs a read for being an anti-pressure tool, but guess what (whispering) ''it's a nice anti-cross up move... you should try it, the animation will make you feel more optimistic"
5. combine with f3, a mindfuck may occur. Haha, you are either a downplayer, or need a nuke to play
6. I do. It's the hitbox man, it can't be ducked in any way and advances, you can whiff 1 just to reach with 2. Don't be so narrow-minded.
7. whatever you say, if turtling works for you... or doesn't, you learned some things today if you want to play him AGAIN I suppose, cause you sound like you have played him. If you haven't, he's so cool, it's never too late.

If you are to argue with any of these, without making a good point, don't bother really. I'm not trying to tell anyone off or something, it's that I was maining Baraka and Kano (watch sig and most importantly the date) for the first 3 months since this game's release, tried out NW for some months after the release of IGAU, so it seemed like a thread I can share a thing or two
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
his anti-air is a good point... but, who needs to jump when you can just d4 the whole game... i feel like he has a bit up close, but in my opinion he doesn't have a niche. you can beat inferior players with him because he is a fundamentals character but at a really high level i find you could argue he really is quite limited. I think he is better than sheeva stryker and kano, but not necessarily better than jade... definetly not better than baraka... and cyber sub doesn't exist.
 
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Death

Noob
Peckapowa said:
Who is worst than nightwolf???? baraka??? no way in fucking hell... cyber sub???. ehhhh..... jade???? you might be able to sell me on that one.

stryker is pretty awful, sheeva too.
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IMO Kano, Sheeva, Jade, CSZ, Stryker, Sindel, baraka are worst. Sindel is debatable but I think shes pretty bad
 
K

Kzaoo

Noob
I say Sheeva. I'd like to say Kano because I main him, but that would be a lie. He's got some decent whiff punishing tools and a really damn long sweep along with some silly gimmicks that you can pull out if you're desperate. What does Sheeva have? Jack shit, that's ehat she has. Stryker is probably worse than Kano, too. Does he have any decent strings?

I think at this point, the only reason I still play Kano is for the option select. If you beat me, you're a bully. If I beat you, then I'm a hero.

:p
 
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