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G4S KT

G4S KT

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Also, examining how his walk works it's pretty clear that the start up portion of both the back and forward walking are considerably faster than when he "gets up to speed".

Theory Fighting it in my head I can't see a situation where you'd want to walk all the way "up to speed" in either direction; instead you would want to hold walk just long enough for the faster start up portion to finish, then release and re-press.

I can't tell yet if other characters behave the same but if not Subz is going to have a particularly strong footsie game.

EDIT: good looks to whoever pointed out that the X-ray isn't a parry. It definitely looks like it's 2 stages, if you touch him on start up it will freeze you but it's also an independent attack if you let it go. Armored? I hope so, losing to projectiles would be lame.

A perfect 0-1 frame AA for full combo is super NOICE (assuming it has 0-1 frame start up like most parries)
 
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Qwark28

Qwark28

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G4S KT said:
Also, examining how his walk works it's pretty clear that the start up portion of both the back and forward walking are considerably faster than when he "gets up to speed".

Theory Fighting it in my head I can't see a situation where you'd want to walk all the way "up to speed" in either direction; instead you would want to hold walk just long enough for the faster start up portion to finish, then release and re-press.

I can't tell yet if other characters behave the same but if not Subz is going to have a particularly strong footsie game.
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I have a feeling that based on the variation effects we've seen, sub will be a strong character.
 
Mechacide

Mechacide

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Even mentioning tiers at this point is silly, we've only seen 6 characters and they could (and almost certainly will) change in many different ways by release. We don't even understand the full game mechanics yet.

The stuff about Sub's walk speed is very interesting though, I hadn't noticed that. Hopefully that's not something that changes because I'd like it to be a unique little quirk.
 
Immortal Reaver

Immortal Reaver

Team Sub-Zero
G4S KT said:
he's got what looks to be an 8-10 frame advancing mid that's part of a 2 hit string that can combo into ice ball. It's like a step forward kick with the rear leg into what looks like a tummy tickle with both hands (lol)

Input is probably going to be f42. Confirm into ice ball / ice clone would be really good.
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Well I was looking at the MKX guide on TRMK and Sub-Zero has a string that is F4, 2, 1+3. So it's probably that.
 
NY-Shadow

NY-Shadow

TestYourMight SUCKS
LionHeart V1 said:
-Love his new design
-ICE CLONE THROW!!!
-New voice actor is much better
-Cold Shoulder returns/slide?
-back slide dash
-has a better fighting stance
-like the new animation of the ice ball

Also if I heard him right subzero says "I tire of maintaining OUR innocence" when scorpion called him a murderer. I wonder if he is referring to him and the Lin Kuei or maybe the older and younger sub somehow fused together which I doubt. I can't tell if this is Bi han or the Younger Sub (which I prefer). He doesn't look like a new Subzero since Scorp calls him a Murderer. Either way HE LOOKS AWESOME.

HE CAN THROW HIS DAMN ICE CLONE!!! NO ONE WILL BEAT ME.
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Calm yourself before you end up becoming one of MKX Sub-Zero's anti nerfing protestors. The game is not even out yet and IS STILL BEING CREATED so he may end up with numerous changes from what you have seen him do in the unreleased to the public demo. And based on NRS history with Sub-Zero, he will probably end up as a low tier near-garbage character by the time the game sends out its 3rd patch.
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
NickDaGreek1983 said:
Sorry to ask but where did we officially learn that clones trade with projectiles ? And what exactly happens if this trade happens? Clone gets out of the way if a fireball hits it ?
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Yes the clone goes away and the fireball disappears. It is seen in one of the gameplay videos and @Casselman confirmed it in his notes. I am on mobile now. I'll link you when i get home.
 
Barrogh

Barrogh

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Although I'm taking that out of context, as it is written, it says that spear breaks the clone, not that they destroy each other... Technically :p
That would be dumb though. Clone is already pretty slow and if MKX will have projectiles anything like MK9 ones, clone will be already fairly easy to counter. Not for every character, perhaps, but still.
 
SHAOLIN

SHAOLIN

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Barrogh said:
Although I'm taking that out of context, as it is written, it says that spear breaks the clone, not that they destroy each other... Technically :p
That would be dumb though. Clone is already pretty slow and if MKX will have projectiles anything like MK9 ones, clone will be already fairly easy to counter. Not for every character, perhaps, but still.
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Haha yea that woukd be dumb,but you have to remember the Ice clone can know be use as a projectile now in MKX.That could be the reason behind the Ice Clone getting "destroy" instead other projectile going through imo.
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
Barrogh said:
Although I'm taking that out of context, as it is written, it says that spear breaks the clone, not that they destroy each other... Technically :p
That would be dumb though. Clone is already pretty slow and if MKX will have projectiles anything like MK9 ones, clone will be already fairly easy to counter. Not for every character, perhaps, but still.
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No don't worry in one of the videos you see D'Vorah's bug hitting the clone and both the bug and the clone disappear.
 
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