How do you punish?

Admittingly I am new and suck at this game. I had it when it came out for Wii U, got rid of since I grew impatient with their lack of support for it then got it for PS3 for Christmas. I am more of CAPCOM fighter not MK at all but I am a huge DC Comics buff. However, I have nothing but complaints for this game but I want to like it, I really do. I guess my main issue is punishment and mounting an offense.

In Injustice it feels like so many things are safe like combo strings. If I block one - what do I do? The only answer I ever have is to throw but yeah that cannot always be the only option am I right? Most combo strings it seems are just safe on block like a -4 or so. I try to combo them back myself but no, they already mounted an offense with a new combo hitting me out of whatever I thought I would hit them with. I tried even combos that begin with 1 but that comes off 50/50. Plus, so many combos have starters that are high so if I tried that they just duck and punish me accordingly.

And is there a point to jump-ins? They don't seem all too safe, if blocked I get punished no matter what it seems. I've been playing fighting games forever but this THIS is just I cannot grasp at anything. Then comes the zoning but really what bothers me is punishment and trying to mount a decent offense and get a combo off? I always end up being on the defense but my roster of characters I use don't have the best of zoning (at least in my opinion) plus I really hate resorting to spamming projectiles. Sorry, I like to have some honor.

Who do you play?

Hawkgirl, Batman, Zod, Catwoman.

Regardless of who I play I just feel like I cannot punish with any common sense.

A few random thoughts:
- unsafe stuff often has a couple of frames of a window to punish it, add in online factor and you kinda can see the issue, especially considering that spamming some of that "semi-safe" stuff online is what some people do;
- some characters' fastest punishing tool is d1~stuff rather than 1;
- zoning is legit;
- jump-ins may be good or not, depending on your or opponent's characters - say, jumping on Aquaman probably won't end well;
- you should get rid of e-bushido gaming "honor" notion - IGAU is fine without house rules.

No it's settled, punishment does not exist, this game is 100% pure grade A bullshit.

Decepticonus said:

No it's settled, punishment does not exist, this game is 100% pure grade A bullshit.

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Try to punish a blocked uppercut? Nope, you get beat out by another uppercut. WTF? So uppercuts are 100% safe.

Dumbest poster of the year goes to -

then how do you punish? everything is so safe in this game. Seems like all that works is throws OR you're pushed too far out of range to punish quickly enough.

http://www.twitch.tv/kombatnetwork

Why don't you bother to watch other people play, and learn from what they do?

"I really hate resorting to spamming projectiles"

This is probably the wrong website for you

I would suggest http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for someone with your particular mentality

Over here anything goes, if you don't "spam projectiles" or use your character to the fullest potential then you are just handicapping yourself. Then you deserve to lose.

Barrogh said:

you should get rid of e-bushido gaming "honor" notion - IGAU is fine without house rules.

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If we could edit our signatures, this would be my new one.

What moves do you have trouble with?

You ask for help but still seem really angry. Happiness comes from working it out yourself.

Decepticonus said:

then how do you punish? everything is so safe in this game. Seems like all that works is throws OR you're pushed too far out of range to punish quickly enough.

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It may be just me, but I thought that question "how to punish" gets answered the moment you open framedata. As with every FG out there, it all boils down to knowing matchups.

Decepticonus said:

then how do you punish? everything is so safe in this game. Seems like all that works is throws OR you're pushed too far out of range to punish quickly enough.

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Probably a stupid question but humor me, if nothing is punishable then how do the people you meet punish you?
Maybe you constantly play bad MUs.

And the zoning part, both zod and bm has decent zoning, and hg and cw has great tools to deal with zoning. You just need to work on your MUs and learn the game IMO.

Alot of blockstrings u can backdash out of and punish,same with alot of jump in attacks.the majority of the time u don't have to sit there,block and take someone's bullshit.what is it in particular your having trouble with? please don't bash injustice just because your having trouble adjusting.

db1

trustinme said:

Alot of blockstrings u can backdash out of and punish,same with alot of jump in attacks.the majority of the time u don't have to sit there,block and take someone's bullshit.what is it in particular your having trouble with? please don't bash injustice just because your having trouble adjusting.

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I appreciate that you step in when people aren't enjoying themselves.

Decepticonus said:

then how do you punish? everything is so safe in this game. Seems like all that works is throws OR you're pushed too far out of range to punish quickly enough.

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No punish is universal for every situation. You just have to do your homework and figure out how to deal with whatever troubles you