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People who think counter-picking is "sleezy or impure"

SoapBar

My pussy, my rules
The better the players become the more lop-sided matchups will become, the more the game is fleshed out the more specific advantages start to make a big difference because the players understand every situation and fully exploit game mechanics and their skills begin to stalemate. Right now players are all over the place and don't fully exploit every matchup or character towards their fullest potential.

The more and more players in anything begin to achieve perfection systematic variability becomes more relevant. Chess is won in competitive play by white 55% of the time or something like that. Compared to street fighter, injustice has a shit load of variables. Increase of variables in anything reduces performance as a rule of thumb. In this scenario the balance of the game is being reduced by the number of variables in the game. This means that injustice in the long run is going to be extremely based (and already is) on character exploitation. Street fighter is highly rewarding to the player because it is designed with a small number of moves, each one intelligently balanced with meaningful risk reward. 6-7 years into that game it will still be more and more about characters because players stop growing.

Tom brady has to be smoking crack when he says feels like he is playing the player more in this game because i believe in injustice might wind up being even worst then mk9, even though netherealm did a better job attempting to balance in some way. He has selective memory of getting bopped by kenshis, now he is the one who mains kenshi. If anything this game is even more about playing against the character and more about abusing matchups, due to the restricted footsie game and excessively dominating options like doomsday's mb venom and zods trait and batmans trait and sinestro's trait and batgirls mixups and martian's tele. These options bottleneck players spacing games and the majority of damage is decided by brutal guessing games. The only thing that balances this game out is the brokeness and difficulty of dealing with every characters options. You can lose to shazam with one boneheaded mistake but he will never TOUCH you once if you play the matchup correctly the entire game. If this game was more about the player then people like noobe wouldn't be beating people like reo, who are far more talented. Mk9 was more rewarding to the player because we saw more consistent tournament results. This game is almost purely about character exploitation, just look at doomsday. Any1 who truly understands fighting games should see that by now, and it is only going to get worst.

This game has extremely slow walk-speed and punishable dashes, this is becoming more and more exploited by top players by punishing dashes on reaction, characters with safe fast relatively far reaching normals have a serious advantage to the point where it renders other characters footsie games useless, especially when they are on the defensive. One of the big reasons this game has so much randomness in tournament performance is because even the worst characters like shazam have brutally unfair guessing games and making one mistake fucks you over. Along with it being 2 out of 3 better players can get randomed out of tournament. So you can call that "balance" or you can call it an "injustice" too talented and thoughtful players
I take it you don't like Doomsday?:3
 

TaffyMeat

Infinite Meter Kombos
Say what???

You want to have the "advantage" by seeing who your opponent picks 1st before you select your character, and at the same time won't play, repeat won't play against people who hide their selection? Well what if they want to see who YOUR selection is before they pick THEIR character? Since this is what you do by your own admission you should have no problem when it is done to you.

I personally could care less who anyone picks. 9/10 times it happens they go to a character they think has a "better MU" against yours, completely oblivious to the fact that they don't have the skill level required to make it a bad MU. Making it an easier win than if they had played with their main. Seeing people jump to another character is more "lol at this guy" than anything else.
People who hide their cursor are pussy. Why hide. I don't care about your opinion. Stop trolling me.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
People who hide their cursor are pussy. Why hide. I don't care about your opinion. Stop trolling me.
I'm not trolling you, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.

On one hand you say in your own words, "people who hide their cursor are pussy" and moreso that you won't play people who wait to see who you select 1st. Yet on the other hand you yourself sit on the screen not moving until someone picks a character before you select. If you had to face your clone, you two would both sit there for 15 seconds and quit at the same time.

So basically you hate having to be matched up against someone who does what you do, and only want to play when you have the advantage of seeing who they select 1st. That is the exact definition of hypocrisy.
 
Counter picking isn't sleazy at all.​

However I do withold giving props for people who win via counter pick.

I won't call them a cheater, or cheap, or a scrub- but don't tell me I have to give props for someone who counter-picked for a 5-5/4-6 matchup just so they could make it a 7-3 in their favor.
 

TaffyMeat

Infinite Meter Kombos
I'm not trolling you, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.

On one hand you say in your own words, "people who hide their cursor are pussy" and moreso that you won't play people who wait to see who you select 1st. Yet on the other hand you yourself sit on the screen not moving until someone picks a character before you select. If you had to face your clone, you two would both sit there for 15 seconds and quit at the same time.

So basically you hate having to be matched up against someone who does what you do, and only want to play when you have the advantage of seeing who they select 1st. That is the exact definition of hypocrisy.
Tis not I whom you have beef with, it's hypocrisy.
 

Suffokate

Worship Only What You Bleed
It's too common when I played Injustice online that the person I'm playing wouldn't pick a character until I picked mine and then counter pick. Those people can go get fucked
 
every time i see a grundy. i go for hawkgirl.
every time i see a sinestro. i go for frost.
every time i see a lantern. i go for raven.

 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
If anything this game is even more about playing against the character and more about abusing matchups, due to the restricted footsie game and excessively dominating options like doomsday's mb venom and zods trait and batmans trait and sinestro's trait and batgirls mixups and martian's tele. These options bottleneck players spacing games and the majority of damage is decided by brutal guessing games. The only thing that balances this game out is the brokeness and difficulty of dealing with every characters options. You can lose to shazam with one boneheaded mistake but he will never TOUCH you once if you play the matchup correctly the entire game. If this game was more about the player then people like noobe wouldn't be beating people like reo, who are far more talented. Mk9 was more rewarding to the player because we saw more consistent tournament results. This game is almost purely about character exploitation, just look at doomsday. Any1 who truly understands fighting games should see that by now, and it is only going to get worst.

This game has extremely slow walk-speed and punishable dashes, this is becoming more and more exploited by top players by punishing dashes on reaction, characters with safe fast relatively far reaching normals have a serious advantage to the point where it renders other characters footsie games useless, especially when they are on the defensive. One of the big reasons this game has so much randomness in tournament performance is because even the worst characters like shazam have brutally unfair guessing games and making one mistake fucks you over. Along with it being 2 out of 3 better players can get randomed out of tournament. So you can call that "balance" or you can call it an "injustice" too talented and thoughtful players
These paragraphs...... holy crap.
This is basically how I feel as well, and why I just can't play the game. Kudos to you that stick it out though.
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
I use Catwoman and some match ups are very difficult. Sometimes sticking to one character that has no projectiles and don't have a fast mobility speed can lead to any player downfall while using her. I should have work on a second main instead of me focusing on 1 character. I'm thinking about NightWing to mock Murk and get rid of my bad matchups of getting in. Plus robin from teen titan made me like the character even more. Man I wish star fire was in the game. No character really interest me besides catwoman, NightWing and Raven. The rest of the cast I could care less for them. I use character that interest me not because they are top tier. If I do that, the game for me will be less enjoyable to play.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
Yes it's easy to be a keyboard warrior is it not?
Sounds like a cop out for your own hypocrisy in previous posts. At no point did I say anything in a "keyboard warrior" type of way. I simply called out your hypocrisy for what it was, hypocrisy.
 

Chaosphere

The Free Meter Police
I don't even think counter picking is lame. If you have the balls to split your resources among more than one character and still have the chance to succeed, then you deserve to be able to counter pick.
 

xInfra Deadx

Gimmick stolen by Jordan Peele
I use Catwoman and some match ups are very difficult. Sometimes sticking to one character that has no projectiles and don't have a fast mobility speed can lead to any player downfall while using her. I should have work on a second main instead of me focusing on 1 character. I'm thinking about NightWing to mock Murk and get rid of my bad matchups of getting in. Plus robin from teen titan made me like the character even more. Man I wish star fire was in the game. No character really interest me besides catwoman, NightWing and Raven. The rest of the cast I could care less for them. I use character that interest me not because they are top tier. If I do that, the game for me will be less enjoyable to play.
She is a A- with tech and etc. her match up grade probably a B-84
LOL
 

TaffyMeat

Infinite Meter Kombos
Sounds like a cop out for your own hypocrisy in previous posts. At no point did I say anything in a "keyboard warrior" type of way. I simply called out your hypocrisy for what it was, hypocrisy.
Yes next time I want to be called out, I know where to go. Now go get me ice cream.