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Question Who is the current best Superman?

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
With the lack of Supermans in tournaments placing high, many wonder if he is still viable. It is clear the community is very unsure of this as KDZ recently won Winter Brawl with him, MF Slayer showed an outstanding performance at SCR showing as 16bit would say "dive bombs are good," and Theo proved Superman's zoning is not entirely useless against Wonder Chef. So with this being said, who are the notable players? I am not talking about winning majors but the most balanced and skillful. I know there are more Supes players out there (like myself) who are not as known. So if anyone knows of one who deserves recognition, post match footage if possible. Hopefully we will be inspired to continue playing as him which will help other each other as well.

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Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
Probably Christopher Reeve, even though he looks chubby compared to Henry Cavill .
Christopher all the way, if I keep playing IGAU I may change my name to Hidan Reeve.
About the thread now, NO ONE reps Superman correctly so far. The closest would be KDZ, then again he dropped
 

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Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
Christopher all the way, if I keep playing IGAU I may change my name to Hidan Reeve.
About the thread now, NO ONE reps Superman correctly so far. The closest would be KDZ, then again he dropped
How do you rep him? This is not a blow up, I'm genuinely curious
 

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
Honestly, doesn't matter. As long as Supes gets good representation in tournaments and great players are placing high/winning with him then I don't really care who's behind the sticks.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Soooooooo.

Would anybody be against this being closed on accounts of New Leaf Clause?