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Official Pre-EVO 2012 Mortal Kombat Tier List

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
Ironically enough, CSZ is a bad match up for Jade.
Cyber is not nearly that bad. He should be in the same tier as Mil and Quan atleast. Also I feel Sektor may be a tier higher than that. And maybe SZ too. But over all not too bad of a list.
 

swag1

EX smash solves all
Why? Whats are his bad match ups (besides JC, Sonya and Jax being all 4.5/5.5s)?
He is the bain of the DLCs (and Cyrax, what i like the most) and has all tools you need. With good reads and patience he can compete with the hole rooster.
Not saying he's bad, but I don't think he's in the same tier as guys like Cage (best rushdown) and Freddy (best zoning)
 

Espio

Kokomo
Lead Moderator
I don't stress about tier lists, so this has me intrigued and hyped to work harder with Stryker..not get pressed about it. I'm going to focus more on him.

Too bad I'm not sure any Stryker mainers will actually be at EVO to show him off:(.

I'm pretty much ruled out and I haven't heard anything from anyone else who mains Stryker going...oh well.
 

Noserfatu

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!
"S+ - Kabal
S - Sonya, Kenshi, Jax
A+ - Kung Lao, Johnny Cage, Freddy Krueger
A - Smoke, Kitana, Cyrax
A- - Raiden, Skarlet, Rain, Reptile, Shang Tsung
B+ - Sub-Zero, Sektor, Liu Kang, Ermac
B - Quan Chi, Mileena, Jade
C+ - Cyber Sub-Zero, Nightwolf, Sindel
C - Sheeva, Scorpion, Baraka, Stryker, Noob Saibot
D - Kano"

I think for simplicity:
B+ / B should be consolidated
C+ through D should be consolidated

Kenshi is closer to Kabal than Sonya and Jax are. Kenshi should be above Sonya and Jax.

S1 - Kabal
S2 - Kenshi
A+ - Sonya, Jax, KL, Cage, Freddy, Smoke

Don't care to mention the mezzanine.
 

sub_on_dubs

Online Scrub Lord
Reo is not a sektor player.
I put him in A- tier.

So it looks like you just lied.
:coffee:
I was actually talking about Maxter and yourself winning on the same weekend. I was mostly referring to STH where he said he would place Sektor lower than what Reo did. Awesome Sektor btw.
 

ForeverKing

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This is the current tier list for Mortal Kombat as of May 9th, 2012. Do you guys think this list will change after EVO? What do you think of this list?

S+ - Kabal
S - Sonya, Kenshi, Jax
A+ - Kung Lao, Johnny Cage, Freddy Krueger
A - Smoke, Kitana, Cyrax
A- - Raiden, Skarlet, Rain, Reptile, Shang Tsung
B+ - Sub-Zero, Sektor, Liu Kang, Ermac
B - Quan Chi, Mileena, Jade
C+ - Cyber Sub-Zero, Nightwolf, Sindel
C - Sheeva, Scorpion, Baraka, Stryker, Noob Saibot
D - Kano


Discuss.
Move Kenshi and Jade like 2 tiers lower
Kung Lao is like 1 tier lower

Cyrax and Cage should both be in S tier

Move Rain Kano and Sektor up a tier

Move Quan Chi up 2 tiers.

There now I agree with it for the most part
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Move Kenshi and Jade like 2 tiers lower
Kung Lao is like 1 tier lower

Cyrax and Cage should both be in S tier

Move Rain Kano and Sektor up a tier

Move Quan Chi up 2 tiers.

There now I agree with it for the most part
While I like hearing the Rain bits, move Kenshi DOWN? Blasphemy
 

ForeverKing

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While I like hearing the Rain bits, move Kenshi DOWN? Blasphemy
Idk why everyone is starting to say Kenshi is so good. He's really not. I mean don't get me wrong he is good, but he is not like super top tier up there with Kabal and Sonya and Cage and those guys. Once his meter is gone he is pretty much dead. Once you get on him and pressure him he is pretty much dead lol. You literally have to keep your opponent away the whole game to win with him I think. And there are too many characters with armor and teleports. If Kenshi was THAT good, there would be more than like 2 or 3 Kenshi mainers going to tournaments
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Idk why everyone is starting to say Kenshi is so good. He's really not. I mean don't get me wrong he is good, but he is not like super top tier up there with Kabal and Sonya and Cage and those guys. Once his meter is gone he is pretty much dead. Once you get on him and pressure him he is pretty much dead lol. You literally have to keep your opponent away the whole game to win with him I think. And there are too many characters with armor and teleports. If Kenshi was THAT good, there would be more than like 2 or 3 Kenshi mainers going to tournaments
I know nothing about Kenshi

Pig Of The Hut
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. How many other Kenshis are there besides him? lol. He is very hard to use in tournaments, trust me I've tried it
I believe you, I just want to see the discussion and hopefully be educated about it. Idaff about kenshi, I care about Rain and Reptile.
 

Death

Noob
Idk why everyone is starting to say Kenshi is so good. He's really not. I mean don't get me wrong he is good, but he is not like super top tier up there with Kabal and Sonya and Cage and those guys. Once his meter is gone he is pretty much dead. Once you get on him and pressure him he is pretty much dead lol. You literally have to keep your opponent away the whole game to win with him I think. And there are too many characters with armor and teleports. If Kenshi was THAT good, there would be more than like 2 or 3 Kenshi mainers going to tournaments
Same can be said about Sonya. Even Cage too. You only see 1 or 2 cages that do well in tournaments cuz they have good fundamentals. Players with bad fundamentals using cage will get exposed. Even Kabal. This logic can be said about any character really.
 

ForeverKing

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Same can be said about Sonya. Even Cage too. You only see 1 or 2 cages that do well in tournaments cuz they have good fundamentals. Players with bad fundamentals using cage will get exposed. Even Kabal. This logic can be said about any character really.
I have seen alot more Cage and Sonyas than Kenshi lol. I can name at least 3 of each that I have fought alone, but I have never fought nor seen a Kenshi besides Pig of the hut and Blackula. Kenshi is good, but idk why everyone starting to call him top 5. Definitiely not IMO
 

LaR

Noob
apparently it was said a day or so ago the whole number system is now being used,
even though more people voted for the .5s???
guessing thats cause a few people made very clear .5s cant exist in there opinion, dont agree with that personally
How could anyone disagree with .5 system ??. Even .5s are still not 100% accurate there is way to many variables to take into account
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
How could anyone disagree with .5 system ??. Even .5s are still not 100% accurate there is way to many variables to take into account
i know man, i think .5s are better than whole number system for the reasons i said.
i know your not a big fan of bothering with numbers of MUs anyway
 

xSMoKEx

Coward Character User
Idk why everyone is starting to say Kenshi is so good. He's really not. I mean don't get me wrong he is good, but he is not like super top tier up there with Kabal and Sonya and Cage and those guys. Once his meter is gone he is pretty much dead. Once you get on him and pressure him he is pretty much dead lol. You literally have to keep your opponent away the whole game to win with him I think. And there are too many characters with armor and teleports. If Kenshi was THAT good, there would be more than like 2 or 3 Kenshi mainers going to tournaments
Easier said than done. Kenshi is constantly chipping away at your life forcing you to block specials and he gains more meter. His armour is a win/win anyways. You have to risk a cross-over hoping he'a going to armor. Even if you block it the pushback and frame advantage is enough to guarentee another shoulder which pushes you roughly 3/4 screen away -not to mention more meter for Kenshi due to 3 guarenteed hits + whatever he gets from zoning you-. I'm sure you know this but it's just for clarities sake.

Basically his armour being so many hits, having such great speed and hitbox, and frame advantage that allows for another shoulder is huge. Quite possibly the best "get off me move" in the game along with Rain's Ex RoundHouse and a few others.

His footsies are top-notch. Shoulder handles literally everything man, and the pushback sends you right back into that zoning range he loves. Your forced to block a shoulder or two and once you do start blocking he can go low / mid and even if you fuzzy it or guess correctly he plays another mix-up between the shoulder follow-up or just block into counter poke. You think he's gonna shoulder you atter and you pole he counter pokes you with a shoulder, bam back into zoning range. You sit there and resoect it he's pushed you away and you're screwed. It's liks a double mix-up. You have to expect that shoulder while your advancing and it just allows for plenty of free pressuring opportunities. Kenshi has solid strings to add on to this. (F21B2, F32, B2, 21, etc.)

Pig could explain better than i could of course. Basically his ability to have constant meter and ALWAYS be a threat regardless of what range you're at, coupled with that godlike armour and you have yourself a top tier character. Oh and his solid footsies!

(side-note, he also has a reflect -_- lol)
 

ForeverKing

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Easier said than done. Kenshi is constantly chipping away at your life forcing you to block specials and he gains more meter. His armour is a win/win anyways. You have to risk a cross-over hoping he'a going to armor. Even if you block it the pushback and frame advantage is enough to guarentee another shoulder which pushes you roughly 3/4 screen away -not to mention more meter for Kenshi due to 3 guarenteed hits + whatever he gets from zoning you-. I'm sure you know this but it's just for clarities sake.

Basically his armour being so many hits, having such great speed and hitbox, and frame advantage that allows for another shoulder is huge. Quite possibly the best "get off me move" in the game along with Rain's Ex RoundHouse and a few others.

His footsies are top-notch. Shoulder handles literally everything man, and the pushback sends you right back into that zoning range he loves. Your forced to block a shoulder or two and once you do start blocking he can go low / mid and even if you fuzzy it or guess correctly he plays another mix-up between the shoulder follow-up or just block into counter poke. You think he's gonna shoulder you atter and you pole he counter pokes you with a shoulder, bam back into zoning range. You sit there and resoect it he's pushed you away and you're screwed. It's liks a double mix-up. You have to expect that shoulder while your advancing and it just allows for plenty of free pressuring opportunities. Kenshi has solid strings to add on to this. (F21B2, F32, B2, 21, etc.)

Pig could explain better than i could of course. Basically his ability to have constant meter and ALWAYS be a threat regardless of what range you're at, coupled with that godlike armour and you have yourself a top tier character. Oh and his solid footsies!

(side-note, he also has a reflect -_- lol)
Yeah, of course I know this I've been using Kenshi alot lately :) lol. He has good meter management and everything, but the thing is once you get him to that point that he has no meter (say he just used a breaker for example) he is kind of screwed at close range.

The thing is, I actually picked Kenshi for Cage, but Cage doesn't even lose that matchup that bad so it kind of pisses me off lol. Its harder for Kenshi to get away from Cage than it is for Cage to get in on Kenshi IMO