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Who are considered Sonya's bad MUs

Death

Noob
Freddy, Kabal, Kenshi. Only 3 bad MUs but very winnable. I do think shes top 3. Theres no characters in this game that has Zero or 1 Bad MU. The best characters and the highest tiered probably have 2-3 so that puts Sonya Very high IMO.
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
A zoning Freddy gives her trouble but once she's in, she stays in.

A zoning Kabal is trouble as a NDC Kabal up close is too. Watching Riu48 playing Sonya at that high level fighting against REO's Kabal was amazing, learned some stuff so the match up is 4.5/5.5 in Kabal's favor now, previously 4/6.

Sonya is 5-5 with Kenshi. It's just Sonya players don't know how to fight Kenshi correctly. 4.5/5.5 I would slightly agree.

For some strange reason I would like to add Smoke as a 4.5/5.5 match up offline that is. Smoke's poking game and Smoke Bomb is more dangerous than her poking game. Yeah, she can Dive Kick his pokes but if he D1/4~Smoke Bomb the animation of her Dive Kick will still fall through the Smoke Bomb. Sonya also doesn't have a fast direct hit move like Cage's Green/Red Kick, Jax's Bionic Arm Charge, Baraka's Blade Charge... Her Arc Kick is fast but the start up is slow, her Cartwheel is not fast and the Smoke Bomb beats it or njp. Sparingly the use of her Dive Kick, D4, 7 frame standing 1 jab gets her in on Smoke but she needs to watch out for his Smoke Bomb.
 
As of now, I think Kabal, Freddy and Kenshi are 4-6. Smoke could be 4.5-5.5 because if he gets the life lead, you're dead. But 4.5-5.5 isn't a bad matchup, and I feel 5-5 is more accurate in this MU, so...
 

Death

Noob
4-6 vs Kabal Kenshi and Freddy. Every Tournament Kenshi player and every sonya tournament player will agree with Kenshi beating sonya except for Foxy who still didn't tell me or respond to my msg on how its even. The only thing I hear is 5-5 without an explanation. So if your reading this Foxy, respond to my msg. For the most part The online Sonya community feels this is a 5-5 MU which is actually true. Theres a lot of stuff Sonya can do online that Kenshi cant take advantage of. Hope this helps the OP opinion.
 

Death

Noob
A zoning Freddy gives her trouble but once she's in, she stays in.

A zoning Kabal is trouble as a NDC Kabal up close is too. Watching Riu48 playing Sonya at that high level fighting against REO's Kabal was amazing, learned some stuff so the match up is 4.5/5.5 in Kabal's favor now, previously 4/6.

Sonya is 5-5 with Kenshi. It's just Sonya players don't know how to fight Kenshi correctly. 4.5/5.5 I would slightly agree.

For some strange reason I would like to add Smoke as a 4.5/5.5 match up offline that is. Smoke's poking game and Smoke Bomb is more dangerous than her poking game. Yeah, she can Dive Kick his pokes but if he D1/4~Smoke Bomb the animation of her Dive Kick will still fall through the Smoke Bomb. Sonya also doesn't have a fast direct hit move like Cage's Green/Red Kick, Jax's Bionic Arm Charge, Baraka's Blade Charge... Her Arc Kick is fast but the start up is slow, her Cartwheel is not fast and the Smoke Bomb beats it or njp. Sparingly the use of her Dive Kick, D4, 7 frame standing 1 jab gets her in on Smoke but she needs to watch out for his Smoke Bomb.
Dude im sorry but you are too opinionated. You dont even compete or play this game at a high level offline. How do you come up with such ludicrious comments like When sonya stays in vs Freddy she stays in. Thats Cage players not Sonya. Sonya doesnt keep the character in. All her strings can be poked out of. So watching one FT3 set changes a MU? RIU48 told me at MLG that MU is worse than 6-4.

5-5 with kenshi. SMH. Read message above.

How do you comment on smoke offline when you have no idea what your talking about or play high level smokes. Smoke does not beat Sonya. That match is even at best.

Your the most annoying person I ever read on this site and MKU. You post ridiculous shit and act like its fact. The only Sonya player who ever said it was 5-5 was Foxy and he still doesnt show video proof or explanations why its 5-5. Every1 in this community will say Kenshi beats Sonya. Stop posting dumb shit like its 5-5. You lose all your credibilty. Stop posting dumb information on the forums from your online experiences.
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
As of now, I think Kabal, Freddy and Kenshi are 4-6. Smoke could be 4.5-5.5 because if he gets the life lead, you're dead. But 4.5-5.5 isn't a bad matchup, and I feel 5-5 is more accurate in this MU, so...
Yeah you're probably right, life lead is very important in the Sonya/Smoke match up. Both need to get in, plenty of area for mistakes for both of them but Smoke gets to run away and play bait. The plus for Sonya is if Smoke makes a wrong move like a blocked Teleport, whiff Teleport, a poke he will pay a big price from her Dive Kick and now he gets screwed over not having the life lead. It's just his Smoke Bomb and pokes are too dangerous so Sonya has to be very careful.
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
Dude im sorry but you are too opinionated. You dont even compete or play this game at a high level offline. How do you come up with such ludicrious comments like When sonya stays in vs Freddy she stays in. Thats Cage players not Sonya. Sonya doesnt keep the character in. All her strings can be poked out of. So watching one FT3 set changes a MU? RIU48 told me at MLG that MU is worse than 6-4.

5-5 with kenshi. SMH. Read message above.

How do you comment on smoke offline when you have no idea what your talking about or play high level smokes. Smoke does not beat Sonya. That match is even at best.

Your the most annoying person I ever read on this site and MKU. You post ridiculous shit and act like its fact. The only Sonya player who ever said it was 5-5 was Foxy and he still doesnt show video proof or explanations why its 5-5. Every1 in this community will say Kenshi beats Sonya. Stop posting dumb shit like its 5-5. You lose all your credibilty. Stop posting dumb information on the forums from your online experiences.
I play offline ;) AND I'm going to MLG so =P

Why did you even add me on your Friend List on XBL? Answer that *SMH too*
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
The only Sonya player who ever said it was 5-5 was Foxy and he still doesnt show video proof or explanations why its 5-5. Every1 in this community will say Kenshi beats Sonya.
*Rolls Eyes*

F0xy already made a separate post in the forum regarding Kenshi, he is NOT going to answer your question directly.

Didn't he say.. who loses, Sonya loses to Kenshi or the Sonya 'Player' who don't know how to fight Kenshi?

*SMH twice*
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Well, Freddy players say 5.5 : 4.5 in favor of Freddy. REO says the same about Kabal vs Sonya. What does Riu48 think? I think Kenshi beats Sonya 6:4, which is her hardest match up.
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
Sindel can give her fits just saying. I know no one respects anything I say. Right now I have it as 5-5 but at ones of these next tourneys I want myself and mr mileena to play this match up with the top Sonya's like riu48, gamerblake, and death.


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Death

Noob
So I can baby you repeadetly and you made some lame excuse to not fight me. I have more kenshi experience than any Sonya player out there with the exception of RIU and Morty. I know how to fight Kenshi trust me. I'm not the only one here who thinks Kenshi beats Sonya. Every1 says it except for Foxy but you just follow what he says cuz you cant make up your own opinion.

Your online Kenshi fights dont matter. And ill try and be at MLG too. Expect a 100$ MM coming your way. Name dropping Foxy isn't going to save you from the MM.
 
He is an annoying obstacle course full screen but Sonya has ways to get in on him. Same can be said about Kenshi.
Well, Kenshi has armor. Actually, some of the best armored moves in the game. Even if you block them, he gets an advantadge, since you're half screen away again. Noob doesn't have armor, so once Sonya is in, it's very likely that she's staying in.
 

Death

Noob
Well, Freddy players say 5.5 : 4.5 in favor of Freddy. REO says the same about Kabal vs Sonya. What does Riu48 think? I think Kenshi beats Sonya 6:4, which is her hardest match up.
At first REO said it was 5-5 but then he said on the Kombat Network Stream that Kenshi is Sonyas worst MU. Sonya being 4.5-5.5 vs Kabal I can see and is justified. Sonya has a lot of options vs Kabal as with Freddy. Sonyas worst MU is Kenshi but winnable with the right reads. Kenshi safe armor and adv on block really hurts. Not to mention Kenshis amazing rushdown ability too always ending in frame traps.

Me and RIU48 were discussing her bad MUs at MLG. I remmeber him telling me that he thinks Freddy and Kenshi were her worst. I also talked to Morty about her MUs and us 3 pretty much came down to her having 3 bad MUs essentially.
 

Death

Noob
Sindel can give her fits just saying. I know no one respects anything I say. Right now I have it as 5-5 but at ones of these next tourneys I want myself and mr mileena to play this match up with the top Sonya's like riu48, gamerblake, and death.


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I agree Dancock 5-5. Sindel has a really good rush down game too. She deff doesnt slack vs Sonya.

Noob is 5-5 or slightly in Sonyas favor. Noob zoning is pretty risky and overrated IMO. His lack of armor hurts the MU vs Sonya as well. Noob has a hard time getting damage on Sonya too. Sonya ex cartwheel really hurts Noob as well. Its tough for Noob to get any kind of rushdown game on Sonya too and he cant just mindlessly throw shadows at her.
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
Sindel can give her fits just saying. I know no one respects anything I say. Right now I have it as 5-5 but at ones of these next tourneys I want myself and mr mileena to play this match up with the top Sonya's like riu48, gamerblake, and death.

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That match up is annoying but definitely 5-5. Every time I move the cursor over to Sonya on XBL/PS3, I always see the other player pick Noob Saibot, Kenshi, Ermac and Sindel. I agree, I would like to see you and Mr. Mileena use Sindel on Riu48, Death, GamerBlake90 and CURBOLICOUS at a tournament.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
At first REO said it was 5-5 but then he said on the Kombat Network Stream that Kenshi is Sonyas worst MU. Sonya being 4.5-5.5 vs Kabal I can see and is justified. Sonya has a lot of options vs Kabal as with Freddy. Sonyas worst MU is Kenshi but winnable with the right reads. Kenshi safe armor and adv on block really hurts. Not to mention Kenshis amazing rushdown ability too always ending in frame traps.

Me and RIU48 were discussing her bad MUs at MLG. I remmeber him telling me that he thinks Freddy and Kenshi were her worst. I also talked to Morty about her MUs and us 3 pretty much came down to her having 3 bad MUs essentially.
I agree for the most part. In my personal opinion, I think in terms of difficulty Kenshi > Freddy = Kabal.

By the way, I was playing Dan in a long series last night. I definitely want to play you again and test out my secondary character.
 
Freddy, Kabal, Kenshi. Only 3 bad MUs but very winnable. I do think shes top 3. Theres no characters in this game that has Zero or 1 Bad MU. The best characters and the highest tiered probably have 2-3 so that puts Sonya Very high IMO.
I believe the best characters in this game are Kabal and Kenshi. Kabal does not lose a single matchup, and Kenshi only loses to Kung Lao (although I believe there is more Kenshi players can do to make that match more competitive).

I believe Sonya sits somewhere between 5-9 on a tier-list. I also think Kitana might have a slight edge over Sonya.

So I can baby you repeadetly and you made some lame excuse to not fight me. I have more kenshi experience than any Sonya player out there with the exception of RIU and Morty. I know how to fight Kenshi trust me. I'm not the only one here who thinks Kenshi beats Sonya. Every1 says it except for Foxy but you just follow what he says cuz you cant make up your own opinion.

Your online Kenshi fights dont matter. And ill try and be at MLG too. Expect a 100$ MM coming your way. Name dropping Foxy isn't going to save you from the MM.
Kenshi definitely beats Sonya. That matchup comes down to pattern recognition and reads for Sonya to win. Reads can win you games, but not consistently/reliably if your opponent knows how to adapt.
 

Death

Noob
Sounds good Dave. I personally want to learn the Freddy MU a bit better. I personally think out her 3 bad MUs Kabal is the easiest to fight. Kenshi is the hardest by far. Its not his zoning that gives me problems its his safe advancing armor moves that are advantage on block and the fact that no matter where I am he is always chipping me to death. Not to mention Kenshi rushdown game and mixups is brutal. He can go low or overhead and always ending it into frame traps. Kenshi played at the highest level is ridiculous.

Freddy IMO feels tougher than Kabal. Freddy is hard to catch and once I catch you I can keep Freddy in like I can when I use Cage. Freddy is another character who I feel has really good rushdown options but id rather fight Freddy over Kenshi any day.

Kabal IMO is probably 4.5-5.5. His zoning isnt even close to being as bad to handle as Freddy/Kenshi. The more he zones he pushes himself in the corner and this is where Sonya can really do damage. If kabal fucks up at all or commits to his pressure game and guesses wrong sonya will punish the dash for 50% at least. This MU really is not that bad at all. Sonya is only 2 on the pressure system meaning kabal can only go 50% on his rushdown vs Sonya. Id rather fight Kabal over Kenshi/Freddy any day.